INFO-VAX Sat, 05 Feb 2005 Volume 2005 : Issue 72 Contents: Re: Curly soon to be out of a job Re: Curly soon to be out of a job Re: Curly soon to be out of a job Re: Curly soon to be out of a job Re: FTP server logs useless name instead of IP address? Re: FTP server logs useless name instead of IP address? Re: How do I use terminal emulator with escape sequences? Re: Intrusion attempts Need an IDE for C++ (CXX) on OpenVMS Re: Need an IDE for C++ (CXX) on OpenVMS Re: Need an IDE for C++ (CXX) on OpenVMS Re: Need an IDE for C++ (CXX) on OpenVMS Re: REBOOT or SHUTDOWN, how to tell in SYSSHUTDWN.COM Serving a different boot disk Re: Serving a different boot disk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 5 Feb 2005 06:56:11 -0800 From: susan_skonetski@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Curly soon to be out of a job Message-ID: <1107615371.057785.73110@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> John I am very sure that Carly is a very smart woman. And to tell the truth that is the only dealing I have had with her other than a very brief visit here at zko so I have no real opinion of her so I will not give it. Michael, I knew and did meet on several occasions enough to form an opinion. He also did something that I respect he told me "I have your back on this" and really did protect me. That is pretty rare from his level to mine (he was a president and I am well a nobody. Sue John Smith wrote: > Sue, > > I respect your opinion of Curly. > > At a personal level I'm pretty sure that carly isn't a bad person either. > She probably doesn't beat her dog or kick little kids. She can probably be a > great dinner date, and maybe she's great in bed too. > > But as a CEO of a company on which tens of thousands of enterprise class > customers depend...well she's just out of her league, and dangerous too. > Ditto for curly. > > > > susan_skonetski@hotmail.com wrote: > > I hope so I really liked him, I could send him mail and he would > > respond, he understood and liked technology, he was a nice man. One > > time we we were at a meeting and he looked at me and said "I owe you > > something" and that was after not seeing me for 9 months I told him > > what it was, he left the meeting and by the time I got home (he was on > > the plane flying back to Houston) I had an answer. He came to ZKO,he > > stopped by my office, he was in the ZKO VMS lab, the last president > > to do that was Ken. So saw what you like he has his good points. > > > > Sue > > > > John Smith wrote: > >> JF Mezei wrote: > >>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4234027.stm > >>> > >>> BBC reports that the Wall Street journal reports that Qwest will > >>> make a bid for MCI. > >>> > >>> Where will Curly go ? Are there any companies left that are in > >>> such a bad shape that nobody wants to take on the job of CEO, > >>> leaving the door opened for the accountant to get another job of > >>> scuttling and then selling the company ? > >> > >> > >> We all know what will happen..... > >> > >> carly(tm) will get forced out and curly will be brought back in to > >> replace her. He did such a great job during the months post-merger > >> that HP gave him how many millions in bonuses before he left? I'm > >> sure they will want a man of his obvious expertise and keen sense of > >> the market to take the reins at HP. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 10:51:11 -0500 From: "John Smith" Subject: Re: Curly soon to be out of a job Message-ID: <6tadnV2nw4vsdpnfRVn-2w@igs.net> Sue, I appreciate your opinion and thoughts. Curly was less Napoleonic in his dealings with staff than carly(tm) - it's actually nice to hear - but don't forget I never badmouthed the man personally....only his decisions. As to carly(tm), never equate 'smart' with 'wise'. I won't ask you to answer these in a public forum but I will ask you to consider the following questions I'm sure you have opinions on, and reflect upon how hubris has been the downfall of man good people and corporations: - Do you agree with the report published by DEC/Compaq engineers about the relative merits of Alpha vs. IA64? (see the recently posted url from Keith C.) - Do you believe that killing Alpha in favor of IA64 was the correct decision for all Compaq's product lines that were slated to continue to use Alpha or were slated to use it (NSK)? - Do you believe that the loss of revenue and resulting profits, and the porting costs incurred from that decision were justifiable to Compaq/HP shareholders? - Do you agree that most of the delays in advancing Alpha design were a result of on-again/off-again funding for chip design/development? - Do you believe that the performance of IA64 will match the expected performance of Alpha at like points in time had Alpha development been continued on a properly funded timetable?, ie. IA64 without DEC/Compaq chip people in 2007 vs. Alpha fully funded with DEC/Compaq chip people in 2007 (just to pick a date - choose another date if you wish). - Do you believe that the low-volume high-cost chip called IA64 is a better bet even if it is $100 cheaper than a low-volume high-cost Alpha given the billions sunk into IA64 and its relative sales volume? ie. how many hundred million Alpha's would it take at $100 more per chip to equal the money sunk into IA64? ...the break-even point is well past the time IA64 will have been place out to pasture - or in short, HP will never get its share of the money sunk into it out of IA64. - Do you believe that the $150MM (or whatever the number is) poured into direct porting/testing cost of VMS to IA64 will show a revenue/profit return higher than if even 1/2 that amount of money was spent simply advertising and effectively promoting VMS? - Do you believe that had 50% of the effort that was poured into porting to IA64 over the past 3.5 years had been *devoted* simply to new features, that VMS would be better off today? Note that I'm still allowing for 50% of the time to be used for code cleanup and making VMS more portable in the longer term in what I mentioned. Now let's get to the merger and the decisions there: - Would it have been a better technical decision for HP to port HP-UX to Alpha instead of porting to IA64? - From your perspective inside an engineering organization and the discussions about the halls, would a port of HP-UX to Alpha taken more or less effort than to IA64? What about the relative risk to HP-UX doing the port, ie. would porting it to Alpha run more or less technological risk than a port to IA64? Remember that technological risk equates directly to business risk both for the company doing the port and to the end-users of the port no matter which port is done (see the Tru64 TruCluster technology transplant debacle as an example). - Do you agree that the lack of public comment about VMS between Sept. 2001 and May 2002 when indeed all other major products were being commented on publicly by curly and carly(tm) introduced FUD with the customer base and 'froze' potential commitment to VMS by *new* customers? - Will having so few IA64/VMS applications available, even by this time next year, help or hinder VMS in the marketplace? Solaris claims 12,000 apps (yes we know that some of them are insignificant or have not been updated in years), but Sun isn't ashamed in promoting its products. - Do you think the lack of advertising & promotion of VMS will help or hinder its chances in the marketplace? At what level are decsions like this ultimately made - by a janitor? by people like Warren or you? or does the decision making go higher than that, perhaps all the way to the CEO and the BoD? - I won't even get into the Tru64 trust issues...... susan_skonetski@hotmail.com wrote: > John I am very sure that Carly is a very smart woman. And to tell the > truth that is the only dealing I have had with her other than a very > brief visit here at zko so I have no real opinion of her so I will not > give it. Michael, I knew and did meet on several occasions enough to > form an opinion. He also did something that I respect he told me "I > have your back on this" and really did protect me. That is pretty > rare from his level to mine (he was a president and I am well a > nobody. > > Sue > > > John Smith wrote: >> Sue, >> >> I respect your opinion of Curly. >> >> At a personal level I'm pretty sure that carly isn't a bad person >> either. She probably doesn't beat her dog or kick little kids. She >> can probably be a great dinner date, and maybe she's great in bed >> too. >> >> But as a CEO of a company on which tens of thousands of enterprise >> class customers depend...well she's just out of her league, and >> dangerous too. Ditto for curly. >> >> >> >> susan_skonetski@hotmail.com wrote: >>> I hope so I really liked him, I could send him mail and he would >>> respond, he understood and liked technology, he was a nice man. One >>> time we we were at a meeting and he looked at me and said "I owe you >>> something" and that was after not seeing me for 9 months I told him >>> what it was, he left the meeting and by the time I got home (he was >>> on the plane flying back to Houston) I had an answer. He came to >>> ZKO,he stopped by my office, he was in the ZKO VMS lab, the last >>> president to do that was Ken. So saw what you like he has his good >>> points. >>> >>> Sue >>> >>> John Smith wrote: >>>> JF Mezei wrote: >>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4234027.stm >>>>> >>>>> BBC reports that the Wall Street journal reports that Qwest will >>>>> make a bid for MCI. >>>>> >>>>> Where will Curly go ? Are there any companies left that are in >>>>> such a bad shape that nobody wants to take on the job of CEO, >>>>> leaving the door opened for the accountant to get another job of >>>>> scuttling and then selling the company ? >>>> >>>> >>>> We all know what will happen..... >>>> >>>> carly(tm) will get forced out and curly will be brought back in to >>>> replace her. He did such a great job during the months post-merger >>>> that HP gave him how many millions in bonuses before he left? I'm >>>> sure they will want a man of his obvious expertise and keen sense >>>> of the market to take the reins at HP. ------------------------------ Date: 5 Feb 2005 11:04:29 -0600 From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) Subject: Re: Curly soon to be out of a job Message-ID: In article <6tadnV2nw4vsdpnfRVn-2w@igs.net>, "John Smith" writes: > Sue, > > I appreciate your opinion and thoughts. > > Curly was less Napoleonic in his dealings with staff than carly(tm) - it's > actually nice to hear - but don't forget I never badmouthed the man > personally....only his decisions. > > As to carly(tm), never equate 'smart' with 'wise'. > > > I won't ask you to answer these in a public forum but I will ask you to > consider the following questions I'm sure you have opinions on, and reflect > upon how hubris has been the downfall of man good people and corporations: > > - Do you agree with the report published by DEC/Compaq engineers about the > relative merits of Alpha vs. IA64? (see the recently posted url from Keith > C.) That paper has been around for quite some time. It is a great paper. But alpha is no more and it isn't as if Itanium is a dog. > - Do you believe that killing Alpha in favor of IA64 was the correct > decision for all Compaq's product lines that were slated to continue to use > Alpha or were slated to use it (NSK)? Yes. For the same reason when UltraSparc goes away it will be quite apparent that was a good decision. The problem as Paul DeMone outlines at RWT is merchant vs. house. Merchant will always win. Here Paul is tutoring Linus on the advantages of merchant versus house, a key segment: http://tinyurl.com/4swmv Why is IPF being a merchant so important? Easy, its a more efficient business model and division of labour than the house RISC business model. HW OEMs get out of the increasingly costly processor development business* and share the cost of IPF development with many other OEMs in the price they pay Intel for the processors. In return they get a high end MPU with at least as much RAS, performance, and flexibility as they likely could have afforded in their own design but still retain the opportunity to differentiate and add value to their own products with their unique system design expertise. Their products also present one part of a larger total market to ISVs than would a unqiue, vendor specific ISA. *Including programming tool chains and OS support. > - Do you believe that the loss of revenue and resulting profits, and the > porting costs incurred from that decision were justifiable to Compaq/HP > shareholders? Can you specify exact dollar amounts? Can you also show the win transitioning house to merchant and where on the timeline that becomes obvious? For SGI, they have just about turned the corner. As Paul points out in another post, SGI is now 80/20 IPF/MIPS. Perhaps with HP the crossover will occur 50/50? > - Do you agree that most of the delays in advancing Alpha design were a > result of on-again/off-again funding for chip design/development? It is dead. Get over it. > - Do you believe that the performance of IA64 will match the expected > performance of Alpha at like points in time had Alpha development been > continued on a properly funded timetable?, ie. IA64 without DEC/Compaq chip > people in 2007 vs. Alpha fully funded with DEC/Compaq chip people in 2007 > (just to pick a date - choose another date if you wish). Small consideration. Larger consideration for Enterprises is IPF value add (see above) and increased feature set of Itanium (Foxton, Pellston, etc.) > - Do you believe that the low-volume high-cost chip called IA64 is a better > bet even if it is $100 cheaper than a low-volume high-cost Alpha given the > billions sunk into IA64 and its relative sales volume? Absolutely. Intel has FAB space. FABs cost big money and fortunately Intel cranks out millions of CPUs to offset the cost. IBM doesn't and of course loses money with IBM micro. > ie. how many hundred > million Alpha's would it take at $100 more per chip to equal the money sunk > into IA64? This is the wrong question. The question to ask that SKHPC answers is how much was lost on each Alpha CPU manufactured? It is quite obvious that IBM micro is losing money on every CPU they manufacture as IBM micro consistently turns in a loss. ...the break-even point is well past the time IA64 will have been > place out to pasture - or in short, HP will never get its share of the money > sunk into it out of IA64. Not so. Paul points out that IPF profitability is closer than you think. As HP transitions to merchant, margins increase as development (see above) shrinks. Why not journey over here: www.realworldtech.com and get an education? > - Do you believe that the $150MM (or whatever the number is) poured into > direct porting/testing cost of VMS to IA64 will show a revenue/profit > return higher than if even 1/2 that amount of money was spent simply > advertising and effectively promoting VMS? Where do you get that number? Think about the *few* sections that required major rework Alpha->IPF. Certainly not a dollar amount you are suggesting. > Now let's get to the merger and the decisions there: > - Would it have been a better technical decision for HP to port HP-UX to > Alpha instead of porting to IA64? No. Because it would never be merchant. See above. > - Do you agree that the lack of public comment about VMS between Sept. 2001 > and May 2002 when indeed all other major products were being commented on > publicly by curly and carly(tm) introduced FUD with the customer base and > 'froze' potential commitment to VMS by *new* customers? Who knows. But Mark reports a reasonable percentage of new customers - 15%. > - Will having so few IA64/VMS applications available, even by this time next > year, help or hinder VMS in the marketplace? If you think about it, a handful of applications/databases are the vast majority of VMS revenue. Niches that no doubt are the fastest growing in revenue , cellphone billing and text messaging, rely on a handful of applications. Don't try to stuff VMS in a general purpose category, the 80s are over, ok? > Solaris claims 12,000 apps (yes > we know that some of them are insignificant or have not been updated in > years), but Sun isn't ashamed in promoting its products. They have no choice. They are a one trick pony. IBM doesn't do much OS/400 promotion either. > - Do you think the lack of advertising & promotion of VMS will help or > hinder its chances in the marketplace? The verticals it is in it either dominates or makes the most sense. Surely promotion would help. The question is akin to: "That cut you just got there on your arm, do you think washing it will help prevent infection or encourage it?" Strawman. In fact most of what you write above is straw. But what's new? Rob He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offense came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether." Abraham Lincoln Second Inaugural Address Saturday, March 4, 1865 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 18:25:44 GMT From: "FredK" Subject: Re: Curly soon to be out of a job Message-ID: "John Smith" wrote in message news:cN2dnczkqY90Y57fRVn-iQ@igs.net... > Sue, > > I respect your opinion of Curly. > > At a personal level I'm pretty sure that carly isn't a bad person either. > She probably doesn't beat her dog or kick little kids. She can probably be a > great dinner date, and maybe she's great in bed too. > Am I the only one who is just outright offended by this? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 05:37:05 -0800 From: JBloggs@acme.com Subject: Re: FTP server logs useless name instead of IP address? Message-ID: <7ii9015nqerkbe6r8l5b4i5k7l97vp88hs@4ax.com> On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:38:09 -0600 (CST), sms@antinode.org (Steven M.Schweda) wrote: try: $ DEF/SYS/EXEC/NOLOG TCPIP$FTP_SERVER_LOG_CLIENT_BY_ADDRESS TRUE (perhaps also google on TCPIP$FTP_SERVER_LOG_CLIENT_BY_ADDRESS) in a similar vein, see also: $ TCPIP SET SERVICE NTP /LOG_OPTIONS=ADDRESS $ TCPIP SET SERVICE SMTP /LOG_OPTIONS=ADDRESS $ TCPIP SET SERVICE SNMP /LOG_OPTIONS=ADDRESS $ TCPIP SET SERVICE TELNET /LOG_OPTIONS=ADDRESS ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 09:09:22 -0600 (CST) From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) Subject: Re: FTP server logs useless name instead of IP address? Message-ID: <05020509092200_27001146@antinode.org> From: JBloggs@acme.com > $ DEF/SYS/EXEC/NOLOG TCPIP$FTP_SERVER_LOG_CLIENT_BY_ADDRESS TRUE That looks like what I wanted. Thanks. > $ TCPIP SET SERVICE NTP /LOG_OPTIONS=ADDRESS > $ TCPIP SET SERVICE SMTP /LOG_OPTIONS=ADDRESS > $ TCPIP SET SERVICE SNMP /LOG_OPTIONS=ADDRESS > $ TCPIP SET SERVICE TELNET /LOG_OPTIONS=ADDRESS I haven't noticed a similar problem elsewhere, but I'll try to keep these in mind, just in case. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Steven M. Schweda (+1) 651-699-9818 382 South Warwick Street sms@antinode-org Saint Paul MN 55105-2547 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 20:37:29 +0800 From: prep@prep.synonet.com Subject: Re: How do I use terminal emulator with escape sequences? Message-ID: <87is579o8m.fsf@prep.synonet.com> "Neil Rieck" writes: > "Keith Cayemberg" wrote in message > news:42014462$0$18568$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net... >> john_20_28_2000@yahoo.com wrote: > Unless I've missed it, I haven't seen anyone describe direct cursor > addressing. I've got an alarm delivery application that uses > SYS$BRKTHRU to put messages on line 24 of selected terminals and it > works like this. Why not use the terminal driver to do the work? It has terminal independant addressing built in. -- Paul Repacholi 1 Crescent Rd., +61 (08) 9257-1001 Kalamunda. West Australia 6076 comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked. EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 11:03:44 -0000 From: "Alex Daniels" Subject: Re: Intrusion attempts Message-ID: <4204a81c$0$4085$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk> "Ken Fairfield" wrote in message news:cu0q0d$k6g$1@news01.intel.com... > Syltrem wrote: > > > "Peter Weaver" a écrit dans le > > message de news:36htg0F52uqiaU1@individual.net... > > > > My problem is that I have users who are preventing people in the whole shop > > to log in, by locking up the IP port (source) from where all users of > > handheld devices are logging in. > > Right now I unlock (delete/intrusion) the port at interval. I don't like > > that but I can't have everyone in there locked up when they change shifts > > and try to log in. > > Yes, having a common source (IP address) is very problematic > in multi-user VMS environment. I can attest to that. ;-( > I had a similar problem with users logging in via TCP/IP from DECServers. Engineering have solved that for us though by adding a new logical, to TCP/IP Services. Now that problem has totally gone away for our manifestation of it. Now a user on a specific port can only lock that port, rather than the whole DECServer. It came in 5.4 ECO 4 (or ECO3 if you got that), I also have an single images that work as an add on to ECO 2. See below from the release notes... ECO X 25-Jun-2004 Alpha, IA64, and VAX Problem: The existing TCPIP$TELNET_NO_REM_ID logical name did not provide sufficient flexibility in controlling the generation of intrusion and audit records to meet all customer requirements. Therefore, it was necessary to add a new switch: TCPIP$TELNET_TRUST_LOCATION. Deliverables: TCPIP$INETACP.EXE V5.4-15X TCPIP$INETACP_PERF.EXE V5.4-15X TCPIP$TNDRIVER.EXE V5.4-15F TCPIP$TNDRIVER_PERF.EXE V5.4-15F Reference: PTR 70-5-2428 / CFS.104614 / Req Id: GB_G08796 / UCX Note None TCPIP_BUGS Note 3132 Hope that helps you too. Alex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 12:22:12 -0500 From: "Neil Rieck" Subject: Need an IDE for C++ (CXX) on OpenVMS Message-ID: Our team is "considering" a shift from HP-BASIC to HP-C++ on OpenVMS. Can anyone recommend an IDE (Interactive/Integrated Development Environment) for use with HP-C on OpenVMS? Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge, Ontario, Canada. http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 12:11:32 -0600 From: "Craig A. Berry" Subject: Re: Need an IDE for C++ (CXX) on OpenVMS Message-ID: In article , "Neil Rieck" wrote: > Our team is "considering" a shift from HP-BASIC to HP-C++ on OpenVMS. Can > anyone recommend an IDE (Interactive/Integrated Development Environment) for > use with HP-C on OpenVMS? Have you tried NetBeans? See: http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ips/netbeans/ They do have a plug-in for C/C++. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 18:29:31 GMT From: Nigel Barker Subject: Re: Need an IDE for C++ (CXX) on OpenVMS Message-ID: On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 12:22:12 -0500, "Neil Rieck" wrote: >Our team is "considering" a shift from HP-BASIC to HP-C++ on OpenVMS. Can >anyone recommend an IDE (Interactive/Integrated Development Environment) for >use with HP-C on OpenVMS? Take a look at NetBeans http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ips/netbeans/ It started life as a pure Java IDE but the OpenVMS NetBeans team have produced plug ins or extensions for C++, FORTRAN, CMS & even EDT. Distributed NetBeans allows you to provide low cost Linux or Windows clients running the IDE & develop code on the OpenVMS back end. -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 10:24:51 -0800 From: "Tom Linden" Subject: Re: Need an IDE for C++ (CXX) on OpenVMS Message-ID: On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 12:22:12 -0500, Neil Rieck wrote: > Our team is "considering" a shift from HP-BASIC to HP-C++ on OpenVMS. Can > anyone recommend an IDE (Interactive/Integrated Development Environment) > for > use with HP-C on OpenVMS? > > Neil Rieck > Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge, > Ontario, Canada. > http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/ > > Why? -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 09:26:36 -0800 From: Z Subject: Re: REBOOT or SHUTDOWN, how to tell in SYSSHUTDWN.COM Message-ID: <%o7Nd.9383$ev3.4963@fe03.lga> norm.raphael@metso.com wrote: >>Did I misread the orig request? > I'd guess, yes. > >>Why won't that work? > > > I should ask you to go back and reread the thread, but in short, he > does not want to edit sys$system:shutdwn.com, so ther is no place to > put your code if he uses the symbols he has to invoke shutdown with > only the documented parameters. I must be missing a post or two because I see no such prior stipulation in any post in this thread. Sorry. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 11:03:30 -0500 From: "Stanley F. Quayle" Subject: Serving a different boot disk Message-ID: <4204A802.4376.D5DC9DE@localhost> I have a VAX running VMS V5.5. I have a second system disk that I'd like to "serve" to another VAX so it can network boot. But I don't want it to cluster with the boot server. I can do this with LANCP in VMS 6.x with DECnet-Plus (pardon the wrap): $ MCR LANCP set node X /addr=08-00-02-xx-xx-xx /file=niscs_load.exe /root=DISK2:[SYS0.] However, I can't seem to find the corresponding incantation for VMS 5.5 with DECnet (IV, non-Plus). --Stan Quayle Quayle Consulting Inc. ---------- Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ +1 614-868-1363 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH 43147 USA stan-at-stanq-dot-com http://www.stanq.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 18:36:25 +0100 From: "Hans Vlems" Subject: Re: Serving a different boot disk Message-ID: <36kek9F526ksbU1@individual.net> "Stanley F. Quayle" schreef in bericht news:4204A802.4376.D5DC9DE@localhost... > I have a VAX running VMS V5.5. I have a second system disk that I'd > like to "serve" to another VAX so it can network boot. But I don't > want it to cluster with the boot server. > > I can do this with LANCP in VMS 6.x with DECnet-Plus (pardon the > wrap): > > $ MCR LANCP > set node X /addr=08-00-02-xx-xx-xx /file=niscs_load.exe > /root=DISK2:[SYS0.] > > However, I can't seem to find the corresponding incantation for VMS > 5.5 with DECnet (IV, non-Plus). > > --Stan Quayle > Quayle Consulting Inc. I can't even remember whether there was LANCP in V5.5 .... However NCP has similar capabilities, for a VXT1200 the entry is: $ mc ncp - set node indium service circuit ewa0 hardware address 08-00-2b-xx-xx-xx - load file VXT$LIBRARY:VXT.SYS Can't remember the proper incantations for a VAX but this should get you going. IIRC a VAX also nees a secondary loader (VMB.EXE), right? Hans ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2005.072 ************************